Michael,

I appreciate the time spent in responding... it took some time on your part, so thanks.

The truth of the sentences in your second paragraph seem apparent to me. I will give that feelings, awareness, and ideas are inseparable from consciousness. accepted.

perhaps this implies they are beyond science (that is not clear to me), but either way it does not seem to follow that science has a paradox because of it. nor does it seem plain that reality is made of this stuff (well perceptual reality is, but that does not imply that they is not a physical reality too).

I recall a sci-fi short story where three races where on three planets that would mysteriously freeze for a year at a time.

one did so every 2 years .... one did so every 3 years and one did so every 5 years.

when one would freeze the other two could see it, so they all came to understand that they themselves were also freezing.

but every 30 years they all three would freeze.

now one one was around to see this freeze, it was as if it never even happened.

Still all three races accepted that they did all three did freeze at the same time because it fit the pattern even though no person was able to perceive it happening.

If the same way, i do believe there is a physical world outside of any humans perception of that world does exist, not because I can perceive that it is there (nor can anyone else)... no I accept that it really is there because it fits the pattern of many other things that I can perceive.

so it is in this way that I also accept the existence of a physical non-aware world in which my and your awareness is embedded.

I am not sure if I am disagreeing with your ideas, or if this is just missing the point that you are trying to make...

in any case I am not following the paradox. but some of your statements are plain to me...

???