I can relate; it takes time to formulate a good response on and we are not in a reply to a reply... no one will ever be reading this, so why make big effort to find support?

Still I am not 'set on believing' as you say. Indeed reading the abstract of the Reference #114 published in 1980, I do agree it supports your position. Still I have the sense that a great many studies find evidence in the other direction. particularly around visceral body fat. Do you think I am wrong about this? Or that something is wrong with those many studies?

Certainly I agree the whole medical community can engage in group think, and end up believing something that we don't actually have evidence for. I just didn't (don't) suspect body fat is one of these. but of course it could be